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October 31st, 2009

Happy Halloween... and Samhain... and Féile Moingfhinne! @ 03:30 pm

 
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From:bitterlawngnome
Date:November 2nd, 2009 06:22 am (UTC)
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so you're telling me it matters that it be *this* day instead of *that* day, nine or ten or thirteen days apart?
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From:dominicvine
Date:November 2nd, 2009 06:44 am (UTC)
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that wasn't me
but i am saying that
if anything means anything
the whole context of belief is what gives the meaning power, right?
i've always had a thorn in my side about this Arbitrary Calendar that has isn't based on nature but Egos of a very old Empire.
the whole point of the "calendar" the celts were using was that i was based on the flows of nature, not an abstract idea of time.
the idea of Samhain is "the veil is thinnest"
like wanting to do a ritual "when the moon is new"
these things might not mean anything to you
but to the people that are doing the ritual, knowing the proper moment to do it is important because being fixed in the context, especially a more complete idea of the context, gives each action more power.
i'm not just being pedantic here, am i?
you get it, right?
i thought you were just being Becky and snarly just coz
but you have to know what i'm talking about, right?

Anyway, YES. I am saying that if the idea of the Magic of the Holiday matters to you, then Yes, ten days matters.

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From:bitterlawngnome
Date:November 2nd, 2009 07:24 am (UTC)
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I agree with your premises, but the conclusion I would reach from them is that he ought to do whatever he does on the day that makes the most sense to him, regardless whether it's an astronomically correct day or just an arbitrary calendar day. I don't believe that the dead are sitting around on the other side waiting for their living relatives on a particular day. Although I fully expect to get "you never call you never write" channelled messages from my mother.

Yes I was being becky. I fucking hate people telling me I'm remembering my dead on the wrong day. Which they do, every single fucking year.
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From:dominicvine
Date:November 2nd, 2009 07:52 am (UTC)
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oh, i entirely missed what your grimace was.
yeah, in that case, you should be remembering your dead Today. November 2nd.
that is, if they aren't saints, if they didn't make it into the cannon. if they're just in the masses in the underworld waiting for the Jesus.
but if they aren't in that group
you should remember them May 5th. though i don't understand Why.
i also don't understand Why Samhain incorporates this, but apparently it's about the seperation between this side and the other side being the thinnest. it's not about ghots and grandma. there could be some advantages when knowing you could punch through to the other side easier... if you're capturing dæmons or trying to be caught by one, say...
however, i know a few fellows who are ALWAYS falling through that curtain anyway. again, i think it all depends on the person.
but you're definately doing it wrong, whatever it is. then. arbitrarily. importantly. whatever.
dead? i always forget... they remind me when it's important.

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